Li Zhongyin - Chen Fake student
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Andy Malone
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His xie xing is how I learned it in another ,not Chen style, taiji form. He turns his hips facing forward. Its like Hong jun Shengs Xie Xing too. That must be how Chen Fake taught this version of it. Gongfujia is certainly a lot different.
Andy Malone
TwerkingWombat
This is essentially how I was attempting the form before studying with Marin. Very big, circular, and softer. I was also stepping with weight centralized. I believed that was correct because you see that in all of Chen Fake's students. I did most of the moves like that. It was easy on the knees too.
The stance tends to widen more when you don't maintain the empty step. I think you see that with this man. In the forms I have seen by more advanced Gongfujia practitioners, they also appear to centralize the weight (or maybe it's 60/40) more or less. I thought keeping the weight more centered would generally be better for fighting.
Probably, when you get old, you just relax and do your form the best you can.
The stance tends to widen more when you don't maintain the empty step. I think you see that with this man. In the forms I have seen by more advanced Gongfujia practitioners, they also appear to centralize the weight (or maybe it's 60/40) more or less. I thought keeping the weight more centered would generally be better for fighting.
Probably, when you get old, you just relax and do your form the best you can.
angryclown
Jingang
Li Zhongyin and Feng are both in this one. Fun to see the differences in how their little tuishou demos play out.
When I see videos like this that were taken when I was alive, I think about what a stupid asshole I was in 1990, while this was happening elsewhere in the world...
Andy Malone
TwerkingWombat
I was thumb upping the video. Not the, you were an ass in the 90s. It was the dark ages. We were all savages.
This is a bit of a simplified approach, and I don't mean that in a critical way, just factual. The approach is simplified because it essentially focuses on or expresses a less varied application patterning; a more singular utility in this very forward facing sequence.
In this video at around 8:47 you can see Feng Zhiqiang show a little more varying body direction. I believe either Chenyu or Chen Zhaokui also fleshed out the application patterning for this move as well.
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60/40 weighting is a broad and rather complex topic on it's own. Ideally it should really not be centralized, and of course that is the problem or risk of practicing that, especially for beginners; not having a clearly and well developed distribution of root and weight generally results in 'centralization' or falling to the middle. It is easier of course, but it is worse for fighting AND fighting oriented tuishou. It is good for the kind of tuishou where you expect the opponent cannot overwhelm you out of your stance and don't plan on ever walking, or using the nuance of yin/yang (Taiji).
The actual 60/40 approach is exceptionally challenging, but keeping the weight more centralized is mainly better for just heavily sitting in one spot and being slow to mobilize. That is how a lot of people view Taijiquan though.
angryclown
Jingang
Not to worry. I only have one feeling, and you can't hurt it.
It's fun looking at these old videos with a little bit of direction as to which ones are worth looking at.
