The kind of students teachers of Taijiquan inevitably have to suffer in the US; a cautionary tale

[Marin]

From: EO-HOLISTIC BostonMassageBodySoundWorkFitness <eoholistic@gmail.com>
Date: September 27, 2024 at 7:46:21 PM EDT
To: Marin Spivack <>
Sir,
After careful consideration I've come to this realization and decision for the following reasons.
What you've given me thus far is extremely difficult, painful and exhausting due to my "conditions" but has, in fact, VASTLY, improved my Chen practices. Because my careers are already extremly physically demanding and exhausting with A LOT of core and upper body work your teaching style interferes with my income in that when I see you and try to meet your demands, I'm blown out for work. I can't have that.
Your teaching style holds presumptions on a persons limitations mentally and that works great with the young and the physically soundish people but not for me. You said you have people in my age range. I have seen none in class thus far nor any with serious conditions. I need to (be reasonably) pace(d) like in PT/Clinical setting and you are VERY clearly not a clinician.
I'm not interested in being "A Great Martial Artist". I hold my own pretty well with most trained and untrained even in my condition. I'm here for the conditioning mostly. Generally, criminals and hooligans are not trained and are inspired to respect me right off and long time martial artists dont instigate fights so that's not something I worry about.
So, I'm going to pull away until the new year for several reasons one of which is Spiritual Fall Practices that include Dream Work, and, if you allow, poppining in when I can. I do this in order to strengthen those positions and movements you've provided in order to set a reasonable pace in working through the structural deficiencies such that even my back muscles and tendons are affected/corrected and also to build my stamina.
The way it is now seems like a waste of time for me as I cannot benefit without having layed the groundwork presented so you can correct and I can move forward. Though you said, "it'll take as long as it takes" your teaching style thus far does not represent those words and that's ok. You are who you are and it is what it is and I'm willing to work with that just not to my detrement physically or financially..
I've relayed this to Garrett (a student he recommended) and even suggested he get on your site, do the tutorials and lay the groundwork before joining the class. He's already very aprehensive and maybe a bit fragile, given his extreme physical limitations. He's been advised of my possible discontinuance until the new year.
You're creating Fighting Warriors for those seeking that. I heal, am engrossed in the Shamanic and am a man of peace studying War who can, and has on many occasions, reason(ed) his way out of violence. I've already done my time kicking around, challenging, taking challenges ect . It holds no interest for me. I have 2 rules in Martial Arts. 1, don't get hit and 2 DON'T GET HIT. It's worked well as a deterrent and to earn respect rather than create enemies.
I'm certain none of this is of consequence to you as I am nobody to you but I do owe my respect in explaining myself, my plan and why.
Hoping it meets with your aporoval and understanding,

Enrique Maximillion DeJesus Oliveras
•Sound Healer
•Dance Instructor
•Zumba Style Dance Class
•Certified Yoga Instructor
•Lic Massage Therapist (Clinical)
•ISSA Natl. Certified Personal Trainer
•ASAF Natl. Certified Group, Bootcamp & Pilates Instructor
•MedFit Approved Medical Fitness Instructor
•Best Selling Author, Herman Kauz Certified & N.E.S.A Certified Tai Chi & Qigong Instructor
781 859 8097

 

[Marin]

To: EO-HOLISTIC BostonMassageBodySoundWorkFitness <eoholistic@gmail.com>
Hello,
That was more words than needed in this case. Plenty of people cannot handle this practice.
I did warn you quite thoroughly that it was likely too much. Against my better judgement I let you give it a try and as expected it was too much. The simple reasons are that you are out of shape and without the needed willpower and pain tolerance to push through. That’s all it is and that is both common and expected in the USA.
We do not do drop ins, or intermittent training. Nothing leads anywhere without persevering directly through the basics. Best of progress in your future endeavors.

Marin

Marin Spivack ／ 默灵
陈照奎太极拳社北美分会
Chen Zhaokui Taijiquan Association, North America

Marin Spivack Chen Shi Taijiquan Gongfu Jia – Senior western disciple of Chenyu 默灵陈氏太极拳

 

[Marin]

From: EO-HOLISTIC BostonMassageBodySoundWorkFitness <eoholistic@gmail.com>
Subject: Re:
Date: September 30, 2024 at 11:07:28 AM EDT
To: Marin Spivack <>
Well, sir, respectfully, it isnt the training. It's your approach, poor social and teaching skills, ignorance on the body as a organism, the principals of teaching & understanding that there are "steps" leading to "a place" ( you dont just go from light to heavy/hard) and meeting people where they are, inability to diagnose and tailor to the indivdual ect. These are the shortcomings your ego wont let you see and address.

In essence, you're a poor teacher that throws your shortcomings onto others with the catch phrase like "eating bitter" and false knowledge on which you mistake hard work for torture despite being advised of pre-existing conditions which put me in crutches. My careers are ALL "eating bitter" and eating bitter is what put me in them and in this state.

Sir. You're very unlikable, lacking in social skills and are cloaked in darkness energetically. Ive seen you('er type") many times. You're on a death trip. Consistently, people in your condition end up with cancer, or some other illnesses or die at the hands of a person. You're certainly creating enough toxic negativity internally and socially to meet that end.
You really should stop teaching and address your desperate need for psychotherapy, spiritual guidence, life coaching, a proper education in sports therapy ect. Menecing , intimidation and harshness are not "teaching". I think you could be a great teacher, multidimensionally but right now, you fall short on so many levels.
You present yourself as an authority on things you clearly have NOOOOO idea about with regard to the human organism. People are not "standard cut outs". The people ive seen at your class are clearly desk occupiers not physical. I challenge you to take one of my classes and see how you do. Our strengths lay in different places. In my world, you're the one who is "out of shape" multidimensionally.
None of what I wrote here is from anger or insult. It is my professional diagnosis and opinion....and Im VERRRY GOOD at what I do, clinically, spiritually and as a instructor and life coach. Not to worry. I purchased enough from you to get to where I need to go.
I had considered asking you to meet to discuss these points with you but was hesitant due to your advanced illnesses. Your response only validates my diagnosis and observations.
As you can see, I'm "blunt" also. The difference is, I KNOW what I'm talking about.
That said, good luck to you. YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT! I am, of course, willing to meet and discuss these points and help you improve but know you're not ready to make changes to better yourself and your life.
Best regards, dear soul

Enrique Maximillion DeJesus Oliveras

•Sound Healer
•Dance Instructor
•Zumba Style Dance Class
•Certified Yoga Instructor
•Lic Massage Therapist (Clinical)
•ISSA Natl. Certified Personal Trainer
•ASAF Natl. Certified Group, Bootcamp & Pilates Instructor
•MedFit Approved Medical Fitness Instructor
•Best Selling Author, Herman Kauz Certified & N.E.S.A Certified Tai Chi & Qigong Instructor
781 859 8097

 

[Marin]

To: EO-HOLISTIC BostonMassageBodySoundWorkFitness <eoholistic@gmail.com>

The fact that you have to write pages on your “i quit” later when no teacher needs to know tells all. Stay in your lane with the safe life you operate in. Stop trying to get the last word while pretending to be spiritually evolved. You are the combination of weak, and narcissistic. I knew from the outset and tried to warn you off. You insisted, You tried and you failed. Now move on.
M

Marin Spivack ／ 默灵
陈照奎太极拳社北美分会
Chen Zhaokui Taijiquan Association, North America

 

[Marin]

From: EO-HOLISTIC BostonMassageBodySoundWorkFitness <eoholistic@gmail.com>
Subject: Re:
Date: September 30, 2024 at 11:13:41 AM EDT
To: Marin Spivack <>

I see you're projecting,sir. Only narcissists call other people narcissist. I didnt fail. You did. Once again you're thtowing your failure elsewhere in anger and trying to insult. I am not insulted and take your words as a compliment.
Now, get lost.

Enrique Maximillion DeJesus Oliveras

•Sound Healer
•Dance Instructor
•Zumba Style Dance Class
•Certified Yoga Instructor
•Lic Massage Therapist (Clinical)
•ISSA Natl. Certified Personal Trainer
•ASAF Natl. Certified Group, Bootcamp & Pilates Instructor
•MedFit Approved Medical Fitness Instructor
•Best Selling Author, Herman Kauz Certified & N.E.S.A Certified Tai Chi & Qigong Instructor
781 859 8097

 

[Marin]

To: EO-HOLISTIC BostonMassageBodySoundWorkFitness <eoholistic@gmail.com>

Get lost? From my own email?
You wrote to me.
You insisted to come to this class.
You insisted you would persevere.
You have a mile long resume of the utter drivel of new age self bullshittery and faux accolades. Oh do get over yourself. This art is not within your reach and you will just have to deal with that. Hopefully you can learn to control your emotional response on that one.
I am not getting lost, this is my email. Stop writing is all you have to do.
Best of luck.
M

Marin Spivack ／ 默灵
陈照奎太极拳社北美分会
Chen Zhaokui Taijiquan Association, North America

 

[Marin]

From: EO-HOLISTIC BostonMassageBodySoundWorkFitness <eoholistic@gmail.com>
Subject: Re:
Date: September 30, 2024 at 11:36:17 AM EDT
To: Marin Spivack <>



From: EO-HOLISTIC BostonMassageBodySoundWorkFitness <eoholistic@gmail.com>
Subject: Re:
Date: September 30, 2024 at 11:39:08 AM EDT
To: Marin Spivack <>

I'm very greatful to have met you, sir.
Best

Enrique Maximillion DeJesus Oliveras

•Sound Healer
•Dance Instructor
•Zumba Style Dance Class
•Certified Yoga Instructor
•Lic Massage Therapist (Clinical)
•ISSA Natl. Certified Personal Trainer
•ASAF Natl. Certified Group, Bootcamp & Pilates Instructor
•MedFit Approved Medical Fitness Instructor
•Best Selling Author, Herman Kauz Certified & N.E.S.A Certified Tai Chi & Qigong Instructor
781 859 8097

 

[Marin]

To anyone who read this far. You have a deranged sense of humor. I commend your tolerance.
To anyone else who is considering making a run at 'enlightening' me with your self appointed guru-hood and failing attempts at martial arts practice that you plan to make my fault. I am warning you now that I do not possess to assumed discretion to keep your horribly douchey correspondence private. Don't play here.

 

[Lousi Meng De]

From: EO-HOLISTIC BostonMassageBodySoundWorkFitness <eoholistic@gmail.com>
Subject: Re:
Date: September 30, 2024 at 11:07:28 AM EDT
To: Marin Spivack <>
Well, sir, respectfully, it isnt the training. It's your approach, poor social and teaching skills, ignorance on the body as a organism, the principals of teaching & understanding that there are "steps" leading to "a place" ( you dont just go from light to heavy/hard) and meeting people where they are, inability to diagnose and tailor to the indivdual ect. These are the shortcomings your ego wont let you see and address.

In essence, you're a poor teacher that throws your shortcomings onto others with the catch phrase like "eating bitter" and false knowledge on which you mistake hard work for torture despite being advised of pre-existing conditions which put me in crutches. My careers are ALL "eating bitter" and eating bitter is what put me in them and in this state.

Sir. You're very unlikable, lacking in social skills and are cloaked in darkness energetically. Ive seen you('er type") many times. You're on a death trip. Consistently, people in your condition end up with cancer, or some other illnesses or die at the hands of a person. You're certainly creating enough toxic negativity internally and socially to meet that end.
You really should stop teaching and address your desperate need for psychotherapy, spiritual guidence, life coaching, a proper education in sports therapy ect. Menecing , intimidation and harshness are not "teaching". I think you could be a great teacher, multidimensionally but right now, you fall short on so many levels.
You present yourself as an authority on things you clearly have NOOOOO idea about with regard to the human organism. People are not "standard cut outs". The people ive seen at your class are clearly desk occupiers not physical. I challenge you to take one of my classes and see how you do. Our strengths lay in different places. In my world, you're the one who is "out of shape" multidimensionally.
None of what I wrote here is from anger or insult. It is my professional diagnosis and opinion....and Im VERRRY GOOD at what I do, clinically, spiritually and as a instructor and life coach. Not to worry. I purchased enough from you to get to where I need to go.
I had considered asking you to meet to discuss these points with you but was hesitant due to your advanced illnesses. Your response only validates my diagnosis and observations.
As you can see, I'm "blunt" also. The difference is, I KNOW what I'm talking about.
That said, good luck to you. YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT! I am, of course, willing to meet and discuss these points and help you improve but know you're not ready to make changes to better yourself and your life.
Best regards, dear soul

Enrique Maximillion DeJesus Oliveras

•Sound Healer
•Dance Instructor
•Zumba Style Dance Class
•Certified Yoga Instructor
•Lic Massage Therapist (Clinical)
•ISSA Natl. Certified Personal Trainer
•ASAF Natl. Certified Group, Bootcamp & Pilates Instructor
•MedFit Approved Medical Fitness Instructor
•Best Selling Author, Herman Kauz Certified & N.E.S.A Certified Tai Chi & Qigong Instructor
781 859 8097

...so it's late, me and my lady have been hurling insults at each other all night and using "multidimensionally" at the end of it to see who psychologically buckles first, but we keep laughing every time we say it....laughing 'multidimensionally' of course to coddle our egos with bubble wrap and tears of mediocrity

 

[Marin]

...so it's late, me and my lady have been hurling insults at each other all night and using "multidimensionally" at the end of it to see who psychologically buckles first, but we keep laughing every time we say it....laughing 'multidimensionally' of course to coddle our egos with bubble wrap and tears of mediocrity

First of all, how did I know you specifically would read this to the end?
Second of all, you are cloaked in darkness energy. Just sayin'.